Quake 2 Remaster (не RTX)

[theleo_ua]

обратите внимание на следующее:

https://images.ctfassets.net/rporu91m20dc/5LEu1yHylLrxK5CWiDNZjl/d614abb333011d1ad9cadb7b643146cb/QII_blaster_in-body.gif

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[theleo_ua]

мне наоборот, не нравился этот прикол (и радовался, когда в дезматче его не было)

[xray696]

Вполне понимаю и поддерживаю, сам уже готовился к раздражению, но с улыбкой. Да, это тот самый Quake 2, ха! Дело в том, что появилось ощущение: и много они там всего повырезали или сделали по-своему. Почему бы не добавить выбор в настройках игры? В Стим обсуждениях, я смотрю, тоже подняли этот вопрос.

Вообще жду какой-нибудь патч. Похоже они читают и прислушиваются, если вспоминать Q1.

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Про рейлган тоже жалуются, якобы понерфили и теперь требуется больше выстрелов с попаданием, про танки и икары в основном. Еще не добрался до этого оружия, но больше всего, жду его в этой игре, когда оно окажется у меня в руках С гранатомётом, вроде, всё в порядке, с ракетомётом тоже.

[RaRu Des2122]

Рейлган в новой кампании выдают намного раньше (там, собственно, всё раньше даётся). Подтверждаю, он ослаблен по сравнению с оригиналом. Дополнение это очень сильно прибавило в динамике и от него там, как мне показалось, толку не слишком много стало.

Ещё там появились мини-боссы с полоской здоровья...

[xray696]

Возможно дело не в рельсе, а прибавка здоровья к некоторым противникам.
https://quake.fandom.com/wiki/Railgun_(Q2)
Тот же строгг с гранатомётом или Железная Леди, свободно и по старому кладутся с двух выстрелов.

[RaRu Des2122]

Восьми-девяти хватало именно командирам Танков (красноватым), обычным хватало четырёх-пяти в оригинале. Так что тут либо рейлган действительно понерфили, либо живучесть танков повысили.

Но вот кого сильно дополнили, так это берсеркера. В оригинале его запросто можно было на потом оставлять, а в ремастере истреблять его надо первым и как можно быстрее. И если размахивание молотком для точки я помню в числе вырезанного контента, то неужели его электропрыжки на большое расстояние, которые наносят урон, даже если игрок выше или ниже стоит, тоже изначально планировались?

[xray696]

Похоже в рельсе изменили урон со 150 до 100.
И вполне сходится: https://quake.fandom.com/wiki/Monsters_(Q2)
Для того же икара теперь требуется 3 выстрела, а для танка 8
Здесь вроде все изменения:

Скрытый текст: The List: (in no particular order) - Railgun damage in single player has been reduced from 150 to 100 - Blaster damage has increased in single player (it looks like some weapons have inherited the multiplayer stats, but not all of them) - Machine Gun recoil has been removed - Berserkers now have a leap attack - Grenade/Launcher arc and physics have been changed - The game slows down when you open the Help Computer (F1) - Explosive barrels have a timer now - Enemy AI has been tweaked and they tend to see you in circumstances they would not in the original - Adrenaline has been changed to a usable item instead of instant use-on-pickup - DMFlags seem to have been removed, and so you can no longer use them e.g. to have infinite ammo on servers or single player (Might be done another way?) - New areas and secrets in some maps - Changing weapons has a sound effect now - Makron's voice lines have been removed, except for the laugh - Compass has been added as a usable item - The turrets in the Ground Zero expansion now project a laser beam to make them easier to spot, they also had their health reduced. - Dying enemies can be clipped through before the animation ends now - Power Armor can be activated automatically - Enemy AI has been tweaked so it is more difficult to trick them into melee attacks - Gladiators with Phalanx equipped (Reckoning) are less tanky - Health from stimpacks/trap no longer deteriorates back to the "normal maximum" when moving to a new level. Stays as high as it was. However, it DOES deteriorate all the way back down if you get a Megahealth. (Right now, I just don't touch those things.) - Parasite probe can be dodged, and if it hits a wall the Parasite will get stuck for a moment. The probe can also be aimed at a target higher/lower elevation, which the Parasite was ineffective against before. Has a longer range too - Beta Class Gladiator has much less health. something like 5-600 now - Gunner, if it loses sight of the player, may continue to fire grenade volleys towards where it last saw the player. Tank/Tank Commander does the same with a random weapon - Gladiators (including Beta Class) are much less susceptible to the "dance" strategy, they tend to fire their weapon at closer range - Brains are replaced by the Beta Class Brains from The Reckoning - Super Tank has grenade launcher attack, and the Beta Class Super Tank has homing rockets - Beta Class Iron Maiden homing rockets don't seem to home in quite so well - Gekks are faster and more aggressive - Jorg has much more health than before, 8000 on nightmare difficulty (originally 3000) - Tesla limited to capacity of 5, from 50. but they have less buggy behaviour compared to before - player doesn't set off their own Prox Mines anymore (but still gets hurt by the explosion) - player doesn't seem vulnerable to their own Trap anymore. Trap behaviour seems less buggy than before as well - Ammo Pack now affects flechettes which it didn't before - Jump height seems to be reduced on some maps - Grenade jumps (crouching) don't work anymore - Iron Maiden has the same behaviour as Gunner/Tank (if she loses sight of the player, she may continue to fire in the direction she last saw you) - Chainfist has been changed - much better hitbox and the potential for more hits per swing, and the potential to hit multiple targets at once. It also doesn't drag the player towards its target like it used to. - Medic is *much* better at reviving dead Strogg than before. basically does it instantly. in the original game he would often take quite a while to approach the corpse - Stalker's blaster does significantly less damage (looks like 5 per hit down from 15) - Turret health is down to 50, from 240. - Player can no longer skip the extendable bridge in the Ammo Depot, as the switch above is required to open the door - Several enemies in the base Quake 2 campaign have been replaced with alternate expansion forms - Weapons and items from different expansions and versions are all available when using console commands (such as using the Chainfist in base Quake 2) - Switching weapons is faster now - enemies make footstep sounds when they move about. Gameplay-wise to me this is a big deal and rewards a careful player. - Hornet is much more dangerous against a strafing player; it fires its quad-rocketlauncher in a spread, so it can hit you if you are strafing sideways. (previously it launched all four rockets directly forwards) - Some of the Strogg chainguns/machineguns are more accurate against a sideways-strafing player. Previously the only one that was really accurate against strafing was the Super Tank's. Now others such as the Enforcer can hit you if you strafe. - Countdown after launching the self-destruction sequence of Big Gun starts only on escape and not after you initiated it. Probably made so that the player won't be scared of being late to escape the blow. - surface-based footstep sounds are also not in the original version

https://www.nexusmods.com/quake2/mods/15
И моды уже начали клепать, мол вернуть всё былое

[Gadavre]

Того глядишь Quake 2 станет намного популярнее Doom 1-2, если уже не стал.... Не надо возиться с кучей настроек игры, искать hd контент для своего порта, тестировать на совместимость, просто запустил ремастер и играешь. Даже идет на семерке, хотя в требованиях в стиме указана десятка
Разрабы сработали на пятерку!

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