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mutator
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 Отправлено: 03.07.18 02:19:52 | | | | I want to learn russian to be able to communicate with members here better, how long it would take the most to learn the language for someone that knows little to nothing? |
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Герр Смертоносец
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| Отправлено: 03.07.18 08:19:03 | | | 1. Come to any russian summer camp, take the vodka.
2. Drink vodka in the environment of native-speakers.
3. After a couple months of live communication russian language will be installed on the brain automatically. |
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mutator
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| Отправлено: 03.07.18 08:27:31 | | | | i want to start learning every word and their meaning |
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Anto96WS
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| Отправлено: 03.07.18 08:36:12 | | | | mutator: | | i want to start learning every word and their meaning |
Learn single words - bad method. In some cases you need to learn phrases, expressions. And then single words
By the way, I learned English and Spanish by reading comics  |
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doomjedi
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| Отправлено: 03.07.18 09:01:28 | | | You can use google translate, it’s pretty good.
But first, learn the alphabet and how to pronounce it |
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TheTaintedSlav
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| Отправлено: 03.07.18 11:56:09 | | | | doomjedi: | | You can use google translate, it’s pretty good. |
Good for who. It helps, yes, but whole mean of translated words, phrases, etc. might be twisted, pretty messed up.
| Герр Смертоносец: | 1. Come to any russian summer camp, take the vodka.
2. Drink vodka in the environment of native-speakers.
3. After a couple months of live communication russian language will be installed on the brain automatically. |
Nah, 2 weeks are enough in most cases.
| mutator: | | how long it would take the most to learn the language for someone that knows little to nothing? |
It took me whole school life period to learn english basics, and about a year to learn how to speak and type on english without help of other people and translation sites\programms. As you noticed, I do some issues, still. But now I can speak and write decently freely. That's it.
If we speak about russian... well you don't need to know all its grammar specifics, just to know ABC, how it pronouncing and how to make phrases. Education might be hard but, as it was mentioned early by Herr Deathbringer, you may have help from natives and it would be even better if you find russian camp. The only thing is: avoid gopniks and TRI POLOSKI zealots. |
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Void Weaver
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| Отправлено: 03.07.18 13:00:04 | | | mutator
Heads or tails, friendo? |
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mutator
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| Отправлено: 03.07.18 15:55:19 | | | thanks everyone for great answers  I know some sentence are difficult to learn because sentence doesn't go word by word so it uses phase .. | |
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АффтаR NдеN
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| Отправлено: 03.07.18 16:12:01 | | | mutator
You can learn some basic words/phrases and try to private chat with user, who don`t afraid language mistakes | |
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mutator
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| Отправлено: 03.07.18 19:05:01 | | | АффтаR NдеN
yes I will only learn with making mistakes, is russian your native language? | |
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АффтаR NдеN
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| Отправлено: 03.07.18 20:29:33 | | | | mutator: | | is russian your native language? |
Yes | |
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Ыых
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| Отправлено: 03.07.18 20:59:23 | | | | в популярных месседжерах есть группы по изучению языков, где люди помогают друг другу в изучении различных языков. Рекомендую вступит в одну из таких. Общение с реальными людьми для кого язык является нативным упрощает процесс обучения. | |
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mutator
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| Отправлено: 04.07.18 02:56:37 | | | АффтаR NдеN
from where you can learn russian the best? any website? | |
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АффтаR NдеN
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| Отправлено: 04.07.18 10:47:46 | | | mutator
I sand website with common russian words in private chat. push PM button on high part of site page
| mutator: | | from where you can learn russian the best? |
I wrote about it before. You can communicate with this site users in private dialog. I'll help you to realise forum functions, if you need. Also u can create Vkontakte account. Vkontakte is russian facebook copy, and it sucks. Awful design, many awful idiots, etc, but vk can help you to anderstand russian and russians. |
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mutator
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| Отправлено: 04.07.18 16:35:22 | | | АффтаR NдеN
thanks I will take a look at it, how long it would most likely take me to understand basics of russian language? | |
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doomjedi
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| Отправлено: 04.07.18 22:24:26 | | | | CWolf: | | Good for who. It helps, yes, but whole mean of translated words, phrases, etc. might be twisted, pretty messed up. |
When did you last use it? It uses smart learning now.
I translated whole high-particle physics articles from russian to english (obviously would work in any direction) and not only I almost needed not to fix anything (!) - it did much better job in translating to english than I would do. By MUCH.
It actually UNDERSTANDS the language, the whole sentence/paragraph and translates it better than any non-professional native speaking translator. | |
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| Отправлено: 05.07.18 02:20:19 | | | doomjedi
do you recommend learning word by word or learning sentences? because it seems like sentences are different than individual words sometimes | |
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АффтаR NдеN
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| Отправлено: 05.07.18 11:30:39 | | | | mutator: | | how long it would most likely take me to understand basics of russian language? |
I don`t know. Russian is very difficult, i think | |
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doomjedi
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| Отправлено: 05.07.18 17:30:01 | | | | mutator: | | do you recommend learning word by word or learning sentences? |
Well, to start learning sentences you need to have some basic pool of words (and before that you need to know russian alphabet and basic spelling rules).
Sentences can help you to see how and when word is used, and understand new "missing" words from the context.
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If you want to be sure of the EXACT meaning of a particular word you can use wikipedia. You want to know what "chair" is - google wiki for a chair and then select "russian" in language selection.
There are also sites and apps that can pronounce it right for you in russian.
Be sure to learn some verbs and such too, not only nouns and you can't make sentence without such.
On various streaming services I think you can listen to russian with english subtitles or visa versa or even have dubbing with the ability to hear the original talk. | |
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mutator
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| Отправлено: 05.07.18 17:35:53 | | | doomjedi
thanks any advice or suggestion is appreciated my friend I really need to learn russian so i can communicate with other members better than I do now | |
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